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Post by Tails_155 (DJ T-Rey) on Sept 11, 2006 9:54:32 GMT -5
I figured my 1,776th post ought to go to this... so we're 5 years after Septermber 11th, 2006, and we're still almost nowhere on our rebuilding... but... what do you think of America since? Please don't use this just to bash the president! Let's be civilised!
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Post by Geek-A-Zoid on Sept 11, 2006 21:10:02 GMT -5
truthfully though we've tried to make the world better all we've been doing is making more problems for ourselves
whats going on with Iran is because it is no longer counterbalanced by Iraq so the Shites are getting more power.
yes it needed doing but we still needed saddam there as a opposite force against Iran.
Our gas prices have skyrocketed
we are even having more heated battles seperating ourselves here at home with how many rights you can take away for safty
in the end will it probably end up doing good
hopefully
but for right now all i can say is that we could be doing so much better
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Post by Tails_155 (DJ T-Rey) on Sept 11, 2006 21:20:51 GMT -5
+karma for rationality, i'd like to see more of these deep descriptions of your oppinions
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Post by phlakk on Sept 13, 2006 1:49:47 GMT -5
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Post by energythief on Oct 2, 2006 15:10:50 GMT -5
Although I'm living in Canada now, I still retain US Citizenship, so I figured I'd weigh in.
I find it incredibly sad that in our emotional reaction to the tragedy of 9/11/2001, we've managed to both make greater enemies of those nations that already hated us (and may have even had some other fence-sitters jump to the "hate" side), while eliminating that most precious quality that set our society apart from many others - that is to say, freedom, sacrificed in the name of "security".
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Post by Tails_155 (DJ T-Rey) on Oct 3, 2006 22:58:31 GMT -5
how secure are we though? the only way to be completely secure isn't... so... what do, or can we do? it is impossible isn't it? even to us of the Enigma as problem solvers... can anyone figure out perfect safety?
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Post by energythief on Oct 4, 2006 0:28:21 GMT -5
The problem is that for perfect safety, there can be no freedom. The two become mutually exclusive at the extremes. Better to live free, and understand that danger is part of the risk.
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Post by Tails_155 (DJ T-Rey) on Oct 4, 2006 17:16:28 GMT -5
even without freedom (by law) laws are broken, resulting in LESS safety, because law-obiders are defenseless... so some laws are just impossible to have 100% followed huh?
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Post by scooter on Oct 18, 2006 14:55:55 GMT -5
Here's my two cents as a Canadian living in the South Pacific (so I guess that comes out to about one-and-a-half cents Fijian): Much of the violence we fear (terrorism, crime, etc) is secondary violence which is symptomatic of a larger systemic violence. When people feel threatened they often resort to violence in a bid to protect themselves, defend their values, or simply survive. The path to peace is to work for greater social justice, human rights, and political empowerment for ALL people and nations. And you can't get that through violence. That's why I think the so-called "war on terrorism" has only made the world less secure. The kind of peace where the guy with the biggest guns says, "Sit down and down create a fuss" doesn't last very long.... I haven't fully developed this idea yet, but I'm wondering if security is a resource, like food or wealth. And if there's an imbalance (ie. if one person or group has ALL the security and feels really safe behind their walls while another group has little or no security) there's going to be a problem, but if the security were shared (ie. everyone felt like their values and their survival were reasonably safe and aa certain amount of risk could be tolerated and negotiated) I think we might be on the path to something better.
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